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November 5, 2025

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Adi shares insights on why consulting engagements fail, the importance of aligning values, and how effective documentation drives measurable results. They discuss overcoming resistance, building trust, and integrating AI to streamline operations. Eddie emphasizes collaboration, clear ROI, and sustaining improvements through structured processes. 


The conversation provides practical advice for leaders and consultants, highlighting how clarity, commitment, and effective systems can transform businesses and enable sustainable growth.



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Timeline Notes

00:00

Why People Fail with Consulting Opening question about common reasons consulting engagements fail.

00:02

Importance of Fit and Commitment Discussing the need for alignment in values, methodology, and being fully committed to consulting.

00:45

Introduction Host Jeremy Axel introduces the podcast

1:18

Why Listen to This Episode Adi Klevit explains the main takeaway: process documentation is not as hard or unnecessary as people think.

1:58

Adi’s Career and Company Origins Eddie describes her background and why she started her consulting company.

2:24

Rethinking Consulting for Modern Business Discussion on the evolution from traditional consulting to transformation and value-driven results.

3:57

Delivering Tangible Results and ROI Adi Klevit explains her approach, which involves providing playbooks and process maps and focusing on measurable ROI.

6:07

Overcoming Pushback on Soft Costs Addressing resistance from stakeholders regarding hidden or soft costs in process improvement.

7:07

Getting Buy-In and Defining Success Importance of consulting with all stakeholders to define ROI and ensure buy-in.

7:30

Collaboration vs. Surface-Level Advice Distinguishing effective consulting from superficial advice; emphasizing partnership and collaboration.

8:06

Defining the Consulting Partnership Adi Klevit's approach: co-defining goals, ensuring mutual participation, and the necessity of client engagement.

9:17

Collaboration vs. Correction Why collaboration is essential for change management and process adoption.

9:54

The Importance of “Why” in Process Documentation Starting every engagement by clarifying the client’s motivation for documenting processes.

11:24

Building Trust and Empathy The a need for trust, empathy, and careful communication when consulting with business owners.

Notable Guests

Adi Klevit

Adi Klevit

Founder | CEO

Adi Klevit

Founder | CEO

Adi Klevit is the Founder of Business Success Consulting Group and the host of the Systems Simplified podcast. With nearly three decades of experience as an industrial engineer and process consultant, she has helped hundreds of growth-focused companies systematize their operations to scale successfully.

Known as “The Process Guru,” Adi specializes in designing and implementing turnkey systems that reduce dependence on the owner, empower teams, and increase profitability. Her clients range from fast-growing trades businesses to multi-location professional service firms, and she is a trusted advisor to CEOs across the U.S.


Joe Dillon

Joe Dillon

Divorce Mediator & Founder

Joe Dillon

Divorce Mediator & Founder

Joe is a pioneer in divorce mediation who has been helping couples navigate the end of their marriages with dignity and financial wisdom for over 17 years. As co-founder of Equitable Mediation Services, Joe combines his MBA in Finance with specialized training from Harvard, MIT, and Northwestern University to guide couples toward agreements that protect both their emotional wellbeing and financial futures.  


Joe pioneered virtual divorce mediation in 2011, nearly a decade before others adopted online practices during the pandemic. His results speak for themselves: Equitable Mediation Services maintains a 98% case resolution rate, significantly higher than the industry average of 70%. 

Jeremy Axel

Jeremy Axel

Host

Jeremy Axel

Host

Founder and sales manager of Fluent Conveyors, brings over 10 years of experience transforming the conveyor industry with innovative design, exceptional service, and strong dealer partnerships. Serving sectors like recycling, agriculture, and packaging, he delivers custom solutions that enhance efficiency and profitability. Known for his strategic relationship-building and customer-focused approach, Jeremy has earned top honors such as Sales Rep of the Year and President’s Club, reflecting his ongoing commitment to growth and industry leadership.

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