Episode Details
August 28, 2025
30 minutes
Ego in Leadership: Why unchecked pride is one of the most dangerous blind spots for business owners.
Ego vs Passion: The fine line between healthy drive and destructive self-importance.
Leading by Example: How owners set the tone for culture by showing humility and accountability.
Humility as Growth Fuel: Why great leaders embrace feedback and stay open to learning.
Team Dynamics: Building mutual understanding and avoiding one-sided leadership.
Right People, Right Seats: The importance of aligning roles with strengths.
Continuous Learning: Staying sharp by learning beyond what you once knew.
Culture of Collaboration: When leaders and employees lift each other up, businesses thrive.
Featured Quotes
"Ego builds walls. Feedback and humility build bridges."
Jeremy Axel
"Humility doesn’t make you weaker as a leader—it makes your entire team stronger."
Doug Cox
Episode Transcript And Overview
Timeline Notes
Introduction to Never In Reverse Ep 33
The ego in leadership, hosts share their bad habits, thoughts, and how business team leaders need to call each other out from time to time.
The difference between ego and passion
Owners need to lead by example
having humility within your own ego to keep growing
Have an understanding with your team - things cannot be one sided
Get the right people in the right seats.
How feedback can make us great
Know your people, know you team
Keep learning up-to-date material, not just what you learned in college
Step in and help, no matter your rule because rules don’t really matter
Owners and employees should work to better each other
Notable Guests
Adi Klevit
Founder | CEO
Adi Klevit
Founder | CEO
Adi Klevit is the Founder of Business Success Consulting Group and the host of the Systems Simplified podcast. With nearly three decades of experience as an industrial engineer and process consultant, she has helped hundreds of growth-focused companies systematize their operations to scale successfully.
Known as “The Process Guru,” Adi specializes in designing and implementing turnkey systems that reduce dependence on the owner, empower teams, and increase profitability. Her clients range from fast-growing trades businesses to multi-location professional service firms, and she is a trusted advisor to CEOs across the U.S.
Joe Dillon
Divorce Mediator & Founder
Joe Dillon
Divorce Mediator & Founder
Joe is a pioneer in divorce mediation who has been helping couples navigate the end of their marriages with dignity and financial wisdom for over 17 years. As co-founder of Equitable Mediation Services, Joe combines his MBA in Finance with specialized training from Harvard, MIT, and Northwestern University to guide couples toward agreements that protect both their emotional wellbeing and financial futures.
Joe pioneered virtual divorce mediation in 2011, nearly a decade before others adopted online practices during the pandemic. His results speak for themselves: Equitable Mediation Services maintains a 98% case resolution rate, significantly higher than the industry average of 70%.
Jeremy Axel
Host
Jeremy Axel
Host
Founder and sales manager of Fluent Conveyors, brings over 10 years of experience transforming the conveyor industry with innovative design, exceptional service, and strong dealer partnerships. Serving sectors like recycling, agriculture, and packaging, he delivers custom solutions that enhance efficiency and profitability. Known for his strategic relationship-building and customer-focused approach, Jeremy has earned top honors such as Sales Rep of the Year and President’s Club, reflecting his ongoing commitment to growth and industry leadership.
