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EPISODE 8

Overcoming Failures:...

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Episode Details

December 27, 2024

37 minutes

  • Defining Resilience – Doug and Jeremy share their personal definitions of resilience and how they’ve built it over time.


  •  Resilience Through Challenges – Doug recounts pushing through COVID for an important proposal, while Jeremy discusses learning to carry on after failure.


  • Teaching Resilience to Children – Insights on how they instill resilience in their kids while maintaining a nurturing environment.


  • Overcoming the Fear of Losing – The role of failure in personal growth and how embracing losses can shape resilience.


  •  Family and Emotional Intelligence – How Doug and Jeremy’s relationships have helped them grow emotionally and communicate better.


  •  Balancing Work and Family Life – Finding ways to support their families beyond financial contributions, including daily responsibilities.

Featured Quotes

"Resilience is about carrying on after a failure."

Jeremy Axel

"You build resilience by learning how to move through difficult times."

Doug Cox

Episode Transcript And Overview

What is resilience, and how do you become resilient? How do you instill resilience in your children while giving them a safe environment to grow up in? In this episode of Never in Reverse, Doug Cox and Jeremy Axel discuss resilience: how they built it, how they practice it, and how they are teaching it to their children. 


Doug and Jeremy learned much of their resilience and competitiveness through sports. Resilience is relevant to every aspect of their lives – their careers, their relationships, and their personal growth. While many see resilience as a stubborn trait, Jeremy and Doug have learned how to build strength through their relationships; including through compromise and accountability. 

Timeline Notes

1:51

Jeremy and Doug talk about their families and their plans for the holiday season. Doug explains that he is setting new traditions with his loved ones.

3:45

How do you build resilience? For Doug, you build resilience by learning how to move through difficult times. Jeremy believes that his resilience comes from his integrity and competitive nature.

8:24

Doug recounts a time when he had to push through the end of a bout with COVID to present an important proposal. He recognizes the value in what he did, but he has also learned how to create new boundaries around work.

11:28

Jeremy has learned that it’s ok to lose, and that resilience is about carrying on after a failure. He also strives to teach resilience to his children.

15:11

Losing can become a part of your culture. It is important to continue your work after your failures, and to remember your failures and learn from them.

17:54

Doug works hard to be a listener in his family, even on days when he comes home completely depleted of energy. Jeremy believes in admitting when he makes mistakes to his family while teaching them about personal responsibility.

21:30

Doug’s father used to ask him is he understood why he was being disciplined when he did something wrong to make sure he knew what he did wrong. Doug has replicated this with his own family.

24:06

Doug is working to support his wife in more ways than just bringing in a paycheck – including by getting groceries and doing laundry more often. Jeremy is finding new ways to honor his family in his own life.

29:52

Jeremy used to have a “my way or the highway” mentality that held him back in his family. His wife has helped him develop stronger emotional intelligence and appreciate the little things in life.

Notable Guests

Bill Fairman

Bill Fairman

Fund Manager, Private Lender

Bill Fairman

Fund Manager, Private Lender

A best-selling author, national speaker, and serial entrepreneur with 30+ years of experience in mortgage banking.

Over the years, Bill has worked closely with hundreds of high-net-worth individuals, helping them strategically grow wealth as a Fund Manager for more than 13 years.

He’s also a trusted voice in the industry, serving on the Government Relations Committee of the American Association of Private Lenders.

Nick Kiridzic

Nick Kiridzic

Founder and CEO

Nick Kiridzic

Founder and CEO

I'm the founder of StaffHero, where we help growing businesses scale without the chaos connecting them with skilled remote assistants and automation systems that save time and cut costs.Before this, I spent over ten years in healthcare and business development, constantly spotting the same problem: amazing teams burning out under the weight of busywork. That’s what pushed me to build StaffHero.

Now, I focus on helping business owners get their time back and build systems that let them grow with freedom and focus.

Paul Glover

Paul Glover

The No B.S. Executive Coach

Paul Glover

The No B.S. Executive Coach

Paul Glover is No B.S. Executive Coach, whose mission is to Challenge the Best to Become Better.

He is also:

• An Ex- White-Collar Felon.

• A “Recovering” Federal Trial Lawyer.

• A Subject Mater Expert on failing and recovery. 

• Who is a TEDx speaker, Vintage Speaker, Forbes contributor, and an author whose book, WorkQuake™, is endorsed by Marshall Goldsmith, a Top 10 Business Thinker.

• An Executive Coach With 30 years of experience who advises and coaches executives in organizations with up to $1 billion in annual revenue.

• A Starbucks addict, and 

• A Chicago Bears fanatic.

Adi Klevit

Adi Klevit

Founder | CEO

Adi Klevit

Founder | CEO

Adi Klevit is the Founder of Business Success Consulting Group and the host of the Systems Simplified podcast. With nearly three decades of experience as an industrial engineer and process consultant, she has helped hundreds of growth-focused companies systematize their operations to scale successfully.

Known as “The Process Guru,” Adi specializes in designing and implementing turnkey systems that reduce dependence on the owner, empower teams, and increase profitability. Her clients range from fast-growing trades businesses to multi-location professional service firms, and she is a trusted advisor to CEOs across the U.S.

Joe Dillon

Joe Dillon

Divorce Mediator & Founder

Joe Dillon

Divorce Mediator & Founder

Joe is a pioneer in divorce mediation who has been helping couples navigate the end of their marriages with dignity and financial wisdom for over 17 years. As co-founder of Equitable Mediation Services, Joe combines his MBA in Finance with specialized training from Harvard, MIT, and Northwestern University to guide couples toward agreements that protect both their emotional wellbeing and financial futures.  


Joe pioneered virtual divorce mediation in 2011, nearly a decade before others adopted online practices during the pandemic. His results speak for themselves: Equitable Mediation Services maintains a 98% case resolution rate, significantly higher than the industry average of 70%. 

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