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December 17, 2025

31 minutes

A raw look at the sacrifices, lawsuits, and mindset required to move forward, and why integrity is your greatest asset. 


An honest, inspiring conversation for founders, builders, and anyone navigating the entrepreneurial path.


For detailed show notes, navigate using the timestamps below:


(00:00:00) Introduction & Episode Context


(00:00:33) Gratitude and Community Building 

Douglas Cox and Jeremy Axel express gratitude for the year and encourage audience engagement and community.


(00:01:25) Introducing Jeremy Axel & Entrepreneurial Spirit 

Doug introduces Jeremy, sharing their history and Jeremy’s entrepreneurial drive.


(00:02:28) Jeremy’s Early Career & First Startup Experience 

Jeremy recounts his early career selling copiers, learning business basics, and seeking personal growth.


(00:04:29) Transition to Colorado & Software Sales

Jeremy describes moving to Colorado, selling SolidWorks software, and reigniting his entrepreneurial ambitions.


(00:05:20) Integrity Crisis & Founding Fluid Conveyors

Jeremy Axel explains the integrity issues that pushed him to start Fluid Conveyors and the risks involved.


(00:06:28) Startup Sacrifices & Early Struggles

Jeremy Axel details the grind of starting up, personal sacrifices, lawsuits, and working without pay.


(00:07:55) Persistence & Mindset for Growth

Jeremy Axel discusses the importance of persistence, daily progress, and evolving his mindset as the company grew.


(00:08:52) First Success & Building Confidence 

Jeremy Axel recalls the first major customer win and how it validated their efforts and team.


(00:11:09) Early Embarrassments & Learning Moments

Jeremy Axel shares early mistakes, like lacking an owner’s manual, and the importance of adapting and learning.


(00:12:30) Cash Flow, Capital Expenses & Team Structure 

Discussion on managing cash flow, avoiding unnecessary expenses, and evolving the team structure.


(00:13:33) Bad Decisions & Learning from Mistakes 

Jeremy Axel reflects on business mistakes, learning from them, and focusing on long-term brand building.


(00:15:12) Niche Focus vs. Broad Approach 

Doug and Jeremy Axel discuss whether they targeted a niche or stayed broad, and the impact of early lawsuits.


(00:17:10) Customer Relations & Integrity as Core Values 

Emphasis on customer service, integrity, and building trust as foundational company values.


(00:21:15) Chasing Every Opportunity vs. Focus 

Jeremy Axel explains the turning point when they stopped trying to be everything to everyone and focused on their strengths.


(00:22:14) Sharpening Focus & Specialization

Discussion on the importance of specialization, learning from experience, and resisting the urge to chase all revenue.


(00:24:45) Reflections & Regrets 

Jeremy Axel shares what he would do differently, spending more time with family, but not changing the business journey.


(00:25:28) Advice for Entrepreneurs & Grit 

Jeremy Axel offers advice on grit, focus, and continual improvement for entrepreneurs facing challenges.


(00:27:59) Enjoying the Journey & Podcast Philosophy 

Doug and Jeremy Axel reflect on enjoying the entrepreneurial journey and the meaning behind “Never in Reverse.”


(00:30:36) Encouragement & Closing Thoughts 

Final encouragement to start where you are, focus on grit, and not compare yourself to others.


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Joe pioneered virtual divorce mediation in 2011, nearly a decade before others adopted online practices during the pandemic. His results speak for themselves: Equitable Mediation Services maintains a 98% case resolution rate, significantly higher than the industry average of 70%. 

Jeremy Axel

Jeremy Axel

Host

Jeremy Axel

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Founder and sales manager of Fluent Conveyors, brings over 10 years of experience transforming the conveyor industry with innovative design, exceptional service, and strong dealer partnerships. Serving sectors like recycling, agriculture, and packaging, he delivers custom solutions that enhance efficiency and profitability. Known for his strategic relationship-building and customer-focused approach, Jeremy has earned top honors such as Sales Rep of the Year and President’s Club, reflecting his ongoing commitment to growth and industry leadership.

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