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Episode Details

November 19, 2025

45 minutes

Paul opens up about the dramatic fall from success to a prison cell, sharing the emotional devastation, the financial wreckage, and the moment he realized his life would never be the same. But his story doesn’t stay in the darkness. Inside prison walls, Paul discovered an unexpected spark: teaching GED classes to fellow inmates. What started as a way to pass the time became the beginning of his transformation.


Through raw honesty and radical accountability, Paul rebuilt his identity piece by piece. That journey eventually shaped him into the no-nonsense executive coach he is today, someone who believes failure isn’t the end, but a powerful catalyst for reinvention.


This episode is not just about crime and consequence; it’s about redemption, resilience, and the courage it takes to rebuild a life from the ground up.


If you're a leader, a builder, or someone navigating tough seasons, this episode offers a roadmap for transforming setbacks into fuel for growth.

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Episode Transcript And Overview

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Timeline Notes

00:00

Introduction & Guest Welcome Host introduces the podcast, Paul Glover’s background, and welcomes him as a guest

01:45

How Paul Found the Podcast Paul explains how he was referred to the show by another podcaster

2:33

Paul’s Chicago Roots & Family Paul discusses moving to Chicago, his family, and his long marriage.

3:25

Military Service & Return to Chicago Paul shares about being drafted, serving in Vietnam, and returning to Chicago.

4:21

Becoming a Trial Attorney Paul describes his passion for being a federal trial attorney and the performance aspect of the job.

6:45

Descent into Crime & Conviction Paul details how he became involved in criminal activities, his indictment, and conviction for white-collar crimes.

7:48

Charges and Conviction Details Paul lists the specific crimes he was convicted of: kickbacks, embezzlement, money laundering, and witness tampering.

9:06

Rock Bottom & Family Impact Paul discusses the emotional and financial devastation his conviction caused his family.

10:15

Prison, Revenge Fantasies, and Turning Point Paul describes his initial mindset in prison and the pivotal moment on his 50th birthday that led to accepting accountability.

11:41

Transformation & Coaching Beginnings Paul explains how he decided to transform, realized he needed support, and began considering coaching as a career.

13:11

Wife’s Role in Transformation Paul recounts how his wife set strict rules for his transformation and became his first source of “the gift of truth.”

18:03

The No BS Mindset Origin Paul credits his wife’s approach as the foundation for his “no BS” coaching philosophy.

20:34

Service in Prison: Teaching GED Paul describes his first experience of service by teaching GED classes to young inmates.

25:13

Discovering Coaching Skills in Prison Paul realizes his ability to influence and help others, leading to his decision to become a coach.

26:34

Coaching Philosophy & Process Paul outlines his strict coaching program, the importance of truth, and his use of 360-degree reviews.

33:23

Radical Candor & Leadership Adaptability Paul discusses the need for radical candor, adaptability, and the evolving nature of leadership.

36:42

Resilience, Anti-Fragility, and Failing Forward Paul shares his philosophy on resilience, anti-fragility, and using failure as a springboard for growth.

39:17

Lessons from Failure & Accountability Paul explains the importance of accepting failure, learning lessons, and taking ownership as a leader.

43:40

Consequences, Recidivism, and Final Thoughts Paul discusses the necessity of consequences for bad behavior, recidivism among inmates, and the importance of accountability.

Notable Guests

Paul Glover

Paul Glover

The No B.S. Executive Coach

Paul Glover

The No B.S. Executive Coach

Paul Glover is No B.S. Executive Coach, whose mission is to Challenge the Best to Become Better.

He is also:

• An Ex- White-Collar Felon.

• A “Recovering” Federal Trial Lawyer.

• A Subject Mater Expert on failing and recovery. 

• Who is a TEDx speaker, Vintage Speaker, Forbes contributor, and an author whose book, WorkQuake™, is endorsed by Marshall Goldsmith, a Top 10 Business Thinker.

• An Executive Coach With 30 years of experience who advises and coaches executives in organizations with up to $1 billion in annual revenue.

• A Starbucks addict, and 

• A Chicago Bears fanatic.

Adi Klevit

Adi Klevit

Founder | CEO

Adi Klevit

Founder | CEO

Adi Klevit is the Founder of Business Success Consulting Group and the host of the Systems Simplified podcast. With nearly three decades of experience as an industrial engineer and process consultant, she has helped hundreds of growth-focused companies systematize their operations to scale successfully.

Known as “The Process Guru,” Adi specializes in designing and implementing turnkey systems that reduce dependence on the owner, empower teams, and increase profitability. Her clients range from fast-growing trades businesses to multi-location professional service firms, and she is a trusted advisor to CEOs across the U.S.

Joe Dillon

Joe Dillon

Divorce Mediator & Founder

Joe Dillon

Divorce Mediator & Founder

Joe is a pioneer in divorce mediation who has been helping couples navigate the end of their marriages with dignity and financial wisdom for over 17 years. As co-founder of Equitable Mediation Services, Joe combines his MBA in Finance with specialized training from Harvard, MIT, and Northwestern University to guide couples toward agreements that protect both their emotional wellbeing and financial futures.  


Joe pioneered virtual divorce mediation in 2011, nearly a decade before others adopted online practices during the pandemic. His results speak for themselves: Equitable Mediation Services maintains a 98% case resolution rate, significantly higher than the industry average of 70%. 

Jeremy Axel

Jeremy Axel

Host

Jeremy Axel

Host

Founder and sales manager of Fluent Conveyors, brings over 10 years of experience transforming the conveyor industry with innovative design, exceptional service, and strong dealer partnerships. Serving sectors like recycling, agriculture, and packaging, he delivers custom solutions that enhance efficiency and profitability. Known for his strategic relationship-building and customer-focused approach, Jeremy has earned top honors such as Sales Rep of the Year and President’s Club, reflecting his ongoing commitment to growth and industry leadership.

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